Why I Joined & Left Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation CULT (2nd Chinese BK) Part 1

Why I Joined & Left Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation CULT (2nd Chinese BK) Part 1
(My Cult Confession Story and my Wonderful Experiences in my First Years in BK as the World’s Second Chinese BK)

Written by Whisperer Robert Chaen, who Co-Founded Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation Malaysia in 1981.

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Me posing with a Ferrari 308GTB in front of my residence in Toorak, where Melbourne’s rich & famous live. St. Kevin’s College is on the left, Kooyong Courts is in the background.

My Cult Confession Story begins in Melbourne around September 1979 when my brother Tom visited me.

I left my hometown Ipoh, Malaysia to complete my pre-university year (aka “A” Levels) in St. Kevin’s College in 1978. I was studying in Swinburne University I was having a wonderful time with lots of freedom as an under-graduate in Australia, a Western foreign country. Like many Chinese Malaysian parents, they strongly advised me and my 3 siblings (I am the youngest) not to return to Malaysia but to study and migrate overseas.  They saw no future for a Chinese Malaysian as there is strong bias and odds against Non-Malays. I never knew I would uproot and return to Malaysia – twice.

I drove a second-hand Fiat 124S, a poorman’s Italian sportscar. I worked as a part-time waiter in a Hong Kong Chinese Restaurant in Hawthorn, near Swinburne. College life was fun, very exciting and wonderful, and I was starting to notice and chatted with my women college mates…

That Fateful September Day that changed the course of my life and career
My eldest brother Tom drove a long way from Sydney to visit me suddenly.
He gave me the whole 5-day Raja Yoga Meditation (RYM) course in a few hours. It made sense to me and my first Raja Yoga Meditation was great. I saw an aura around Tom when he taught me open-eyed meditation – we look at each other’s Third Eye  (which is in the center of the forehead) through “Dristi” (vision).

I asked him why he drove down just to tell me about the RYM knowledge.
He said that in one of the Murlis (recycled daily class discourse read from a Sakar Murli, daily classes given Shiva Baba through Brahma Baba’s body from 1936-1969) Shiva Baba warned the Brahma Kumaris or BKs (regular students of Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation) that if they don’t tell their relatives about the destruction of Iron Age and the end of the world, one day these relatives will blame you for NOT sharing Shiva Baba’s Gyan (knowledge).

Second Chinese in the World to join BK Raja Yoga Meditation
After the 2 hour discourse and meditation, and sensing I was open to RYM, Tom immediately took me to the first Melbourne Raya Yoga Meditation center located in Fitzroy, north of the CBD (city business district). He introduced the Center-in-charge Brother Charlie (he is currently the Country Head of BK Australia) who later gave me a lot of attention, offered free but bland vegetarian meals. I became the SECOND Chinese to ever join BKs. Tom was the First Chinese.

I began to slowly to adopt BK Maryadas aka Principles for Brahmins (very strict disciplines). I was told I was Brahmin (the Hindu caste system) and therefore must obey strict Brahmin rules. Some weekends Brother Charlie Hogg offered me to stay overnight. I would sleep in a sleeping bag. I remember the RYM center was very peaceful, filled with Indian incense. I could hear a wind chime in the middle of the night.

I remembered one time I tried to cook for the center, because I found the vege food too bland I overdid it with too much hot spices. Brother Charlie was always very encouraging about my inexperienced bad cooking. He had a very sweet temperament and a soothing soft voice (nearly every brother imitated his soft mannerism).

Later I would become such an excellent vegan cook that countless converted to vegetarianism because I made vegetarianism so tasty with a mixture of Chinese/ Indian/ Malaysian dishes and ingredients. My cooking was famous among the Dadis even in Madhuban, the HQ of Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University (BKWSU) in Mt. Abu, Rajasthan, India.  Dadis (aka grandmothers in Hindi) were very senior sisters who left their families and lived with the Founder Brahma Baba in 1936. During the Partition and Independence when Pakistan broke away from India in the early 1950s Brahma Baba moved the community from Pakistan to Mt. Abu.

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Dr. Nirmala & Strict Maryadas
I was introduced to the super-strict Dr. Nirmala, the current Regional Director of Asia-Australia region who later showed her true colors as heartless, tactless, and ruthless. I became more and more involved in BKs.

After 1 month in RYM, I decided I wanted to secretly (not tell my parents) go to my first annual pilgrimage to Madhuban. Brother Charlie gave me the Strict “Shrimat” (supreme directions from Shiva Baba) to follow the Maryadas if I were to stay in Madhuban.

Maybe I was such a rare student (the second Chinese student, and I was very sincere and obedient), I was given a unique exception of being approved by Dr. Nirmala to go to Madhuban with only 3 months in RYM (normally it’s a strict 6 months for Foreigners, 12 months for Indian BKs), not attending daily classes, not 100% pure vegetarianism and I was allowed to eat food in Melbourne food outlets cooked by “impure” Iron-Age (Kali Yuga) people.

Indian Culture Shock & Poster Child
I flew to Bombay. India was a culture shock with the extreme contrast of poverty and rich living next to each other. Instantly Tom and I became a “BK Celebrity” hit with the Indian BKs – later we would be known as “The Chinese BK Brothers“. The Indians and BKs were stunned to see two Chinese wearing traditional white Indian Kurta-Pyjama. Tom & I became the Poster Children of Foreign BK Service. The adoration and admiration was crazy – to be put on a pedestal. I was only 20 years old, Tom my eldest brother was 29 years old.


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Dadi Gulzar is the second, current and the LAST Chariot of Shiva Baba & Brahma Baba (aka Bapdada, the combined Twin Souls).

I had several 1-on-1 meetings with Bapdada in the old big Madhuban hall. When I first saw Bapdada (Twin Souls Shiva Baba & Brahma Baba) enter Dadi Gulzar’s body with a jerk, I kind of freaked out yet at awe to see ‘the supreme soul’ i.e. God himself in person.

The Eerie Voice of the Evil Twin Souls Bapdada – similar to Parseltongue, the Language of the Serpents

Parseltongue is the language of serpents (as well as other magical serpent-based creatures, like the Runespoor and Basilisk) and those who can converse with them. An individual who can speak parseltongue is known as a Parselmouth.

After Madhuban, I stop by my hometown, Ipoh. Somehow my mum found out I went to Madhuban, we had a big fight. Mum made me promise her that I would continue my studies. I promised her, but within 1 month upon arriving in Melbourne I gave up my Business Studies Degree course! All with the full blessings and approval of Dr. Nirmala.

I stopped my University Studies even after promising my Mum not to do it
This is really what happens when the BK Seniors and Centre-in-charge give their “Shrimat” to students not to waste time to study as it’s going to be the end of the World. It happened to me.

For 1 whole year in 1980, I did not go to classes in Swinburne University. I moved into the first Brothers Place near the Fitzroy RYM Centre, together with 5 other Australian BKs. For money I did odd jobs, Amway (for a few months), door-to-door selling, and door-to-door Charity Collector for the Tranby College for Australian Aboriginals (I was the top collector). I’ll spend most of my money on Raja Yoga books, tapes, and to save to start Godly service in Malaysia.

I used my car to take Dr. Nirmala and other BKs to give free talks in various towns in Victoria state, Australia. I was so high, and intoxicated in doing service for the supreme soul Shiva Baba that I didn’t care for anything material. I lost interest in women, I practice Brahmacharya (Celibacy).

Slowly, Slowly I became more and more Isolated from Friends & Relatives and my new Spiritual Family became my one and only World
At one time Dr. Nirmala raided our Brother’s place and instructed us to throw away all our pop songs LP records and cassette tapes. Slowly, slowly I had no entertainment, no movies, no music, no non-BK books, no sex, no meat, no food cooked by non-BKs, no drinking, no socializing, no worldly ambition; sleep by 9pm, wake up by 3:30am, daily classes at 6am, evening service and giving courses – practically I had NO LIFE beyond Brahma Kumaris.

The Death of my 2 Idols: Lennon and Lee
I remember the day when my idol John Lennon was shot in New York on 8 December 1980, I lost interest in worldly Celebrities and their decadent lifestyle. The same thing happened when my teenage Idol Bruce Lee died on 20 July 1973 in Hong Kong, within 1-2 months I lost interest in my Taekwondo classes.

Slowly, slowly my life became more and more isolated from friends, college mates, ‘lokik’ (physical) relatives. My new ‘alokik’ (spiritual) family became my everything, my be all, and my end all.

Only BKs like me will be protected and survive from World Destruction
BK life became simple, uncomplicated, and peaceful – which was wonderful for me facing an uncertain World with nuclear war threat between USSR and USA, civil wars, natural disasters – the world did looked like it’s going to be The End of The World as predicted by Shiva Baba. Yes, all I cared about is Shiva Baba, my God and his Godly Service at this Confluence Age, there is still 6 years left before the predicted End of the World, the end of Iron Age (Kali Yuga) in 1986. And as a BK only BKs will be protected from World Destruction.

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World Destruction and Nostradamus were the great motivators to stay strong in the BK Doomsday Cult
World Destruction always fascinated me since my Protestant Christian days when I was a “Born again” Christian attending The Assembly of God. Like most Christians AOG did predict World Destruction and Nostradamus was widely quoted as evidence.

Detachment is the BK #1 Virtue
In the daily Sakar Murlis (daily recycled classes taught before 1969) brainwashed me to renounce the world, detach anything to do with the Iron Age. I was told on weekly basis in Murlis that my lokik family and relationships are all bad Bondages and Karmic Accounts to be settled through the Fire of Yoga Bhatti Meditation.

I was brainwashed daily by the Murlis to give up my assets, property, and surrender everything to the Yagya (sacrificial fire aka the BK Institution) as I believed my reward in Golden Age is huge and I will be a Golden Age Deity: pure, no sins, no lust, reproduce through pure yoga power without sex, pure vegetarian, including all animals in 2,500 years of Golden Age and Silver Age.

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Lord Krishna playing the ‘Murli’ the flute of knowledge to mesmerize the Gopis (cow herders)

Like a Gopi (cowherder) I was so intoxicated by Shiva Baba’s Murli (the flute of knowledge, Gyan). I was so high because Shiva Baba made me believe that I was once a “worship-worthy” deities like Narayan & Laksmi (The 8 Generations and pairs of Golden Age Kings & Queens), and will be playing with Krishna (the first perfect human of Golden Age, the Adi Dev who will later become Narayan when he becomes King). 

Competition to be in the 108 Rosary – to be “karmateet”
Like all “pakar” BKs (strong in faith and Maryadas), in my early years I aimed to be in the 108 Rosary of the most highest and purest of humans – to be “karmateet” i.e. to settle all past bad Karma and Lokik bondage with my physical family, to be totally free from karma so that I don’t have to go through “Dharmraj”, the Judge (some BKs say the judge is Shiva Baba, some say it’s the highest 8 BK humans of the 108 Rosary); to be totally free from all suffering, ready to be a King or Queen (Narayan or Lakshmi) in Baba’s Golden Age.

Through the years, I was personally mentored by some Dadas and Dadis in Madhuban (the original 300 who eloped with Dada Lekhraj and formed the first BK community). They would actually reveal their estimated ranking in the 108. I knew the top 10 ranking were already been identified especially BKs who had died e.g. Brahma, Saraswati, Didi.

I secretly aimed to be in the top 50 of the 108. I thought I would have a realistically good chance as I was after all the second Chinese in BK, one of the first Foreigner BKs to start service in Asia, and Malaysia had the best results of BK service outside India and Australia; and Bapdada’s direct personal messages to me in Madhuban indicated I was going to be a Mahatma (a great soul).

I made a bold drastic decision to open BK Raja Yoga Meditation Centres in Malaysia in middle of 1980
I told my own brother Tom, Brother Charlie, and Dr. Nirmala my intentions. They were impressed with my super-fast “pakar” progress and dedication – it’s only 9 months since I joined BK RYM. I was not yet 21 years old.

I was moved to Sydney Centre where Brother Charlie had shifted – for 3 months intensive training. Tom was in Sydney living with his Australian wife, Maureen – they were the second BK foreign couple in the world. I worked full time as a packer in a factory. I sold my Fiat car, my stereo hi-fi, I was gearing up to do Godly service by opening the first Kuala Lumpur centre. I did not tell my parents my plan until I was about to leave Australia for good.

I met and shared with some of the original Australian Jewels like Ken O’Donnell, Anthony Strano (died in 27 July 2014), Wendy Sargent, Peter & Martin Damo (Bolanath), the 2 giant brothers from Brisbane centre (they have since married and now Ex-BKs according to BrahmaKumaris.info).

I finally had the courage to tell my parents my plan one or two weeks before flying to Perth and then to Singapore, on route to Mt. Abu.

My parents drove or took a train down to see Tom & I in Singapore. The first thing my Mum did was to touch my hair – she thought I had became a Hari Krishna who shaves one’s head bald. She begged, pleaded with me to continue my studies, and reminded my promise I made to her 1 year before. Alas, at no avail for a desperate mother who suddenly lost her two sons to a cult.

South Indian Deities
Tom and I had a simple plan: to learn as much about South Indian Deities. We figured that the first likely Malaysian BK students will be Hindus Malaysians who mainly originated from Tamil Nadu.


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Meenakshi Amman Temple in Madurai

Tom & I arrived in Madras (now known as Chennai).
It was late March 1981. Sister Rose, the Sister-in-charge treated us well. We took a 2 week slow bus Tamil Nadu tour. We first went to Madurai where the Meenakshi Amman Temple, it was the biggest Hindu temple I ever visited. We stayed in BK RYM Centres along the way – all arranged by Sister Rose who had done service in Singapore previously.


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The next stop was beautiful Kanyakumari, the southern most tip of the Indian Sub-Continent – where you can watch the Sunrise and Sunset in the same spot.


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Ooty Hill Station

Next stops were Coimbatore, and Ooty, “The Honeymoon Hill”

Also known as Udhagamandalam, Ooty is often referred to as ‘Queen of hill stations’. It is the capital of Nilgiris district in the state of Tamilnadu. Nilgiris means ‘Blue Mountains’. A land of picturesque picnic spots & lakes, it was a popular summer and weekend getaway for the British during colonial days. It is situated at an altitude of 7,440 feet (2,240 meters) above sea level.

I had fond memories of my Tamil Nadu trip in 1981. It seems like a great start of my BK experience and brilliant BK career.

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The Longest, Craziest Train Ride from Chennai to New Delhi & The Road to Madhuban
Tom & I travelled from Chennai to New Delhi with the first Singapore BK mother (Sister Meena) who lived upstairs directly above the BK Raja Yoga Centre in Katong, run by Sister Bharati, who had a bad reputation of falling asleep while giving ‘dhristi’ from the gadi (a cushioned platform where Murli classes are given). 

It was the slowest and cheapest train from Chennai. It stopped at every train station to New Delhi. Mothers were cooking chapati and meals in tiny portable stoves. We sat in wooden bunker seats upright for 3 days, 2 nights. I never appreciated Wet Ones so much in India. At each train station stop, the Sounds of Limca, Limca, Limca (a famous Indian drink), wadai, wadai, wadai snacks, and pakchesh (donations) echoes throughout the train.

By the time we arrived in New Delhi my white kurta-pyjama looked grey with dust. After 3 days and 2 nights without a shower, the first bath in New Delhi felt like I was purified in the holy Ganges River.

We attended a huge peace march and ended on stage in the Red Fort. Then we went on a train to Abu Road from New Delhi, this would be the only time I go to Madhuban via ND. It’s an hour long bus ride or fast jeep from Abu Road to Mt. Abu where Madhuban is.

“Charity begins at home”, said Bapdada
Tom & I met Bapdada a few times in April 1981. Bapdada totally blessed us and said to us that “Charity begins at home”.


Continued in Part 2…. Mum disowned us



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Written by Whisperer Robert Chaen
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Ex-BK (1979-1989), World’s First Chinese BK (with his brother, Tom; and Sister Maureen Chen who is still a top BK), Co-Founder of Brahma Kumaris Malaysia (founded in 1981).

Published on 29 September 2017.
Updated on 21 January 2018.
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How to Escape a Cult and Win a Debate with a Cultist

How to Escape a Cult and Win a Debate with a Cultist

How to Help a Cult Relative or Friend to Escape a Deceptive Cult:
●  Take a cultist out the cult’s surroundings for a drink, or invite him (we’ll use “him” not “him/her” for easy writing) to your home.
●  If the cultist lives with you, find a convenient time to talk. Don’t gather a group and confront him yet (he will view it as “persecution” and go further into his Cult Cave).
●  Be real frank and genuine in your comments. Tell him that you (and whoever else e.g. family, wife) are very concern that he is isolating himself from your, his family and friends and it’s a bad sign of cult brainwashing.
●  Give him room to reply. Don’t cut him off or interrupt unnecessarily.

●  How to Win a Cult Debate:
Know he’ll talk how wonderful his new knowledge, wisdom is.
●  Do your research. Google the name of the cult and add the word cult (e.g. Scientology Cult). To win a debate you need to find what you think is The Top 3 Weaknesses of the Cult (e.g. the cult isolate members, break up families & friends, the cult is obsessed with Doomsday Predictions, the cult have weird practices, the cult discipline lifestyle is too strict, etc).

●  How The Cultist Defend his Cult:
●  Don’t debate on a Cult’s Strengths. He will defend that the cult does good community service and projects.
●  Note: Nearly all big cults do some legitimate form of community service but it is a Cult Camouflage to make them look legitimate.
●  He will show the cult’s Poster Men & Women: these individuals (normally lawyers, doctors, government servants, entrepreneurs) who are usually successful already but are now used as Testimonials)
●  He will show the cult’s VIP/ Celebrity Men & Women (e.g. Scientology uses Tom Cruise as their VIP Poster Celebrity)
Note: Just because the cult has good people and celebrity joining their events, it doesn’t make the cult any less dangerous to society.

●  Show him the best YouTube videos about Cults in general
(e.g. My CULT Confession: Landmark, Asiaworks, Lifespring & other LGAT & Charismatic Cults); or a specific bad experience by an Ex-Cult Leader (e.g. My CULT Confession: Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation is a Dark Cult Part 1);
or the best videos are those that directly challenge the cult with the cult’s own jargon, holy book, scriptures.
(example 1: David Wood debates with Jihadists with Quran references: 3 Stages of Jihad: 1. Stealth (Taqiyya: Deception) 2. Terrorism 3. Sharia on Non-Muslims)
(example 2: The 101 Deceptive Faces of Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation Cult)

How to Help a Cultist Escape the Cult

How a Cultist can Escape Cults:
●  Get help from a psycho-therapist.
●  Run away, hide, and lay low for a while away from the cult leaders’ radar.
After missing from them for a few months you become no longer important to them as there are many other straying and backsliding sheep to worry about.
●  Build a Reforming Ex-Cult Support GroupShare quietly with your family or close friendswhom you had left behind – I ensure you they will take you back anytime like a Prodigal Son.
●  Have courage to admit that you have WASTED your life, marriage, relationships, friendships, career, finances, time and money on the cult, and declare openly that you have left the cult.
●  Be a beacon of light for other cult followers to leave the cult.

How a Family Member can Protect himself from a Cultist
1. Being financially stable or good job/career gives you a lot more options. If your Cultist is a parent or husband they may use Money to control you.
Find paying work so you are not dependent on the Cultist’s income, or being controlled by the cultist’s money.
2.  Form a Support Group and share your struggles with living with a Cultist.
You support group should a variety of supporters such parents, siblings, relatives, best friends.
3.  Reach out and be careful which online chat group you go to (Warning: There are many predators who prey on vulnerable victims of cultists).
4.  Report to the Authorities if he gets violent, aggressive, or abusive.
Don’t try to rescue the cultist first, protect yourself first. When you feel safe enough, you can try to rescue the cultist. Sometimes the cultist is too faith-blinded or too stubborn to leave the cult.

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Published on 28 September 2017.

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The Modus Operandi of Cults: Slowly, slowly catch the (Virgin) Monkey!

The Modus Operandi of Cults: Slowly, slowly catch the (Virgin) Monkey!

1)  The Cult Bait
The Forms of Cult Bait: ●  Giving FREE food, free vegetarian classes, free courses, free language classes
ANYTHING FREE is a bait.
●  Dangling Opposite sex attraction: Opposite attracts
●  Offering Instant Gratification of Desire (The Illusion Hook): “recognition”, “belongingness, love, respect, truth, freedom” (why in “apostrophe”? because these hooks are illusion, there’s a very heavy price to pay to gain these)
●  Presenting Poster Boys & Girls: Cults will put the best example of student role models up in front for all to see and be impressed.

2)  The Cult Kill
The cult leaders will rate and stereotype the ‘level of the kill’ meaning they will see how far they can push with each new follower: can this new follower be:

♦ a Teacher  ♦ Daily, weekend or when available Student  ♦ service duties at the center/ office   ♦ approaching strangers evangelist, poster boy/ girl  

3)  The Cult Slavery
The cult leaders will create long-term isolation religious instructions and may become a ‘control freak police’ to monitor, heavy discipline, daily indoctrination and bran, forcing followers to enroll their relatives, friends into their new ‘true religious family’.

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The 7 Dimensions of the Universe, Ghost World, Purgatory, Hell, The Afterlife & The Beforelife

The 7 Dimensions of the Universe, Limbo, Ghost World, Hell, The Afterlife & The Beforelife

2D / The Second Dimension
= Width and height

3D / The Third Dimension
= Width, height and depth (Space)

4D / The Fourth Dimension
= Space + Time = The ‘Known’ Physical Universe;

5D / The Fifth Dimension
= The 5th Dimension has 2 Worlds: Ghost World and Purgatory, Limbo (before going to Soul Universe).

Normally a person dies, the Soul goes from 4D to 6D-7D, and reincarnate.
There are 2 situations where the Soul is unable to go straight to the 6D-7D:
5.1)  Ghost World: A Ghost is a Soul that is very unsettled (e.g. gone through a suicide, violent death, fatal accident, murder), and is unable to go straight to the 6D-7D, so the soul hangs around in the Ghost World, the 5th Dimension.
Sometimes the Soul wants to say goodbye and hangs around (a few hours to a few years).

5.2)  Purgatory/ Hell: the Soul has too much bad Karma to settle in the next lifetimes (for example the human body has a limit to how much it can suffer bodily, mentally, emotionally, spiritually in one lifetime), the Soul may settle its bad Karma through all 5 subtle-angelic senses e.g. “seeing-hearing-feeling-smelling-tasting” through its subtle-angelic body (not a physical body) its bad deeds, sufferings.

This is the “Hell”, “Ghost World”, Inferno”, “Dante” that people refer to.
The Chinese refer to the 12 Levels of Hell, where a soul is tortured with the related crime e.g. lying will have their tongues cut, etc. The Chinese version of Hell is extremely dark, their belief in ghosts is very dark. Chinese even have one lunar month called “The Ghost Festival”.

That’s why Ghosts like Humans may emit bad ordors, uneasy feelings, fleeting images, eerie creepy sounds, bad taste in the tongue – which may be able to be “6th Sensed” by humans.

But these subtle sufferings are never like depicted in holy books i.e. “the eternal fires of Hell”. There is NO fires, cold, drowning, or any physical punishments in Limbo 5D.

We all know the human body can only stand the pain of fire for only less than 1 minute after that the human body will go into shock and faint. So the concept of an eternal fire that can torture a human is impossible, as the body dies and doesn’t feel a thing.

6D / The Sixth Dimension
= “The Afterlife”, Angelic Realm where Guardian Angels, ArchAngels stay, Messengers-Visitations-Afterlife Signs-Premonitions from your Crossed-over Loved Ones; Angelic activities; The Astral Plane, Paranormal Space
This is the “paradise”, “Heaven” which most people refer to.

7D / The Seventh Dimension
= “The Beforelife” (before a soul reincarnate), Soul Universe, Nirvana (state of nothingness), Moksha;
There is NO HUMAN ACTIVITY and NO KARMA in Soul Universe.

Q. What is the meaning of Crossed-over or RIP (Rest In Peace)
A. RIP is about a soul left the body from 4d to 6D or 7D, so the Soul may transition (not ‘move’ as it is not physical) between 6D & 7D, between The Afterlife and The Beforelife aka Soul Universe.

Q.  Where does Karma happens?
A. Return of Karma only exists when the soul is in a human body – in various forms of suffering, pain, hunger, poverty, heartaches, sorrow, regret, guilt, bitterness, loneliness, stress, etc.
The Return of Karma also exists in the 5th Dimension (in the form of “Hell”).
Karma does not exist in the 6th & 7th Dimensions.


7 Dimensions of The Universe


FAQs on The 7 Dimensions of the Universe

Q1.  Where is God in the 7 Dimensions?

A1.  Everywhere (omnipresent) or nowhere – as God is NOT limited or controlled by the 7 Dimensions: Space & Time (4D), Limbo-Ghost-Hell (5D), Angelic Realm-The Afterlife (6D), or Soul Universe-The Beforelife-Nirvana (7D)

Q2.  What are Channeled Spirits?
A2.  There are 4 Types of Channeled Spirits: 
1)  Good and Bad Possessing Ghosts: an unsettled Soul who has not yet crossed-over to 6D & 7D, but the Soul is not humanly aware of the Soul’s predicament. Just like there are good, bad, ugly & beautiful humans, there are good and bad ghosts. Some Ghosts try to possess the body of another soul. At rare times that a body can attract a multiple of Possessing Ghosts

2)  Channeled Good Entity or Angel
Example 1:  Angel Moroni enters Joseph Smith who established the Mormons and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).

3)  Channeled Fallen Angels Satan or Lucifer or Fallen Twin Souls
A fallen Angel or Twin Soul have gone from Light to Darkness.
Fallen Angels and Twin Souls have very important and specific roles to play such as:
● establish a Cult / New Religion.
● Fallen Angels and Fallen Twin Souls create a massive Religious Big Karmic Debt that affects especially regular teachers and students. The usually cult isolation from student’s family and friends, strict Discipline, religious policing, brainwashing, mind control, and harsh Lifestyle can be viewed as a form of punishment for return of bad karma of followers.  click here to read about 27 Big Karmic Debts and identity your Top 3 Big Karmic Debts
Example 1 of  Fallen Twin Souls: Founder Soul Shiva Baba who claims he is the supreme soul incarnates in the body of Brahma Baba and founded Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation around 1936. In 1969 when Brahma Baba died, the Fallen Twin Souls Shiva Baba & Brahma Baba became the combined form of BapDada who then enters their second Chariot called Dadi Gulzar.  click more about The 101 Deceptive Faces of Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga Meditation Cult
Example 2:  A fallen angel is influencing Abū Bakr al-Baghdadi who changed from a shy, unimpressive, and a religious scholar into the Leader of ISIS. His followers are paying their own very heavy Big Karmic Debt through joining ISIS.

4)  ALL Religious Founders have Twin or Triple Souls
Example 1: The Founder Soul (Buddha) enters the body of Prince Siddhārtha (Gautama).
Example 2: The Founder Soul (Christ, aka “God The Father) and an Angelic Soul (God The Holy Ghost), enters the Body of Jesus (“God The Son)

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True Mastery: Removing All Temptations Vs. Surrounded Daily by Vices?

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True Mastery: Removing All Temptations Vs. Surrounded Daily by Vices?

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Men Wear Blindfolds At Airport To Avoid Seeing ‘Immodest’ Women.
By Katie Serena on September 19, 2017

It’s just the latest example of religiously-motivated unusual behavior involving airports and planes.

A group of young Hasidic Jewish men was seen traveling through an airport blindfolded, apparently so they would not be exposed to the potential sight of ‘immodestly’ dressed women.

Reddit user ‘thenewyorkgod’ posted the image Monday morning, which has since amassed over 5000 comments. Most of the commenters expressed shock over such conduct, but some of the users have been posting their own similar experiences or pointing out how common these occurrences are.

In 2013, an Orthodox Jewish man completely covered himself in plastic sheeting during a flight to avoid being exposed to the dead should the plane fly over a cemetery.

This man was believed to be a Kohein, who are religious descendants of the priests of ancient Israel. Kohanim are banned from having any sort of contact with the dead in order to remain pure. This includes visiting cemeteries or even flying over them.

To try to save themselves, Kohanim employ a controversial solution that is not entirely allowed in the church — wrapping themselves in plastic bags. The bag is said to create a sort of barrier between the individual and the ‘tumah,’ or surrounding impurities.

The controversy exists mostly due to safety concerns. Even if they can be seatbelted in, the passenger wouldn’t be able to reach an oxygen mask or escape from the plane quickly if an emergency situation were to occur.

In addition, the question remains as to how they can breathe, as air holes are not allowed in the bag because they would invalidate the barrier.

In 2015, another controversy arose when a Hasidic man refused to sit next to a woman on a plane because she was a woman not related to him.

Laura Heywood was flying from San Diego to London in the middle seat while her husband sat in the aisle side. The window seat originally belonged to a man who happened to be a Hasidic Jew.

The man refused the seat as his faith prevented him from sitting next to any woman who wasn’t his wife. He asked the couple to switch places, but Heywood, believing the man’s request to be sexist, refused.

The flight ended up being delayed due to the disagreement.

Even fellow members of the Jewish faith find instances like these to be confusing.

Jeremy Newberger, a passenger who witnessed a similar episode on a New York to Israel flight, expressed his concern over the issue.

“I grew up Conservative, and I’m sympathetic to Orthodox Jews,” he said to the New York Times. “But this Hasid came on, looking very uncomfortable, and wouldn’t even talk to the woman, and there was five to eight minutes of ‘What’s going to happen?’ before the woman acquiesced and said, ‘I’ll move.’ It felt like he was being a yutz.”



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Understanding a Soul Agreement Between Soulmates


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Understanding a Soul Agreement Between Soulmates

Q.  What is a Soul Agreement?

A.  A Soul Agreement is  a unique agreement between 2 or more Soulmates – on a soul-to-soul level – not physical level.
It’s “an agreement that is made in ‘Heaven’ so it is spiritually binding – not legally binding like man-made laws.”

The Soul Agreement can be about:
1)  Incarnating as one’s own child, best friend, or relative, business partner, activist. 
Watch amazing video of The Story of Sanya Kybopha: Talking with her Crossed-over Mum and the Soul Agreement her Mum will be her first child.  click here

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● Brenda and Robert have made a Soul Agreement on 24 August 2017 that Brenda will incarnate 5 years after she crossed over and we’ll naturally find each other when the new incarnation is around 2-4 years old.

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2)  Fulfilling a broken promise or a new pr
omise with each other’s soul.
Read about Robert’s Promise to Brenda at her death bed in her last 25 minutes:   click here

 Agreeing to choose a particular time and place for future incarnations.
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Consciousness Artist Jootha’s ATOMISCAPE Art Exhibition

Consciousness Artist Jootha’s ATOMISCAPE Art Exhibition
By The Original “Atomic Consciousness & Pulse of Creation” Consciousness Artist Jootha @Melaka Arts Gallery (building circa 1753) 
Officiated by Datuk Mahadevan Sanacy, Sumber Manusia & NGO
15 September – 31 October 2017.
(Note: the correct title spelling is Atomiscape, not Atomiscope).

Interviewee: Consciousness Artist Jootha  (aka Thangarajoo Kanniah)
Interviewer: Consciousness Arts Producer Robrenda (aka Whisperer Robert Chaen)

Here are some bullet points extracted from the video interview:

●  Anak-Anak Alam Series (Children of Nature) started around 1975.
●  The Pulse of Creation started around 2002-2003 – ongoing.
●  Atomic Consciousness started 2015 – ongoing.
● Jootha’s 1984 Death Experience (he described it as Death Experience, others would call it Near Death Experience or NDE) inside the Flow of the Templer’s Park Waterfall was the Cosmic Catalyst that inspired his Signature Pulse of Creation and Atomic Consciousness Series. If you want to know what Jootha went through, watch “The American Beauty” film. click for trailer

●  In the flow method. Free Flow Art.

●  “You can’t step on the river twice.” says Jootha.
Every Jootha’s Masterpiece is original and unique – one of its kind.
It’s absolutely impossible for even him to duplicate again.

●  Since 1984’s Death Experience, Jootha is a just a channel. He doesn’t question anything.

●  He doesn’t have any pre-conceive idea, no form, no time, no pattern where and when he start with the Atomic Consciousness and Pulse of Creation Masterpieces.

●  Note: these 2 series are different from his Realistic Art and Portraits which obviously Jootha has some idea, structure, and flow to the drawing.

●  But once he starts channeling and painting he usually continues and complete in 3 days to 1 week for a small piece (a small piece size is between A4 and A3).

●  I asked him if he channels a particular entity, he said no.

●  He works with several pieces at any one time. 

●  Some masterpieces are never completed.

●  White Ink on Black Sugar Paper for Atomic Consciousness and Black Ink on White Paper for Pulse of Creation.

●  He gets Addicted to his paintings – it’s like he is on high, calling him to draw more.

●  The exhibition is held in one of the oldest buildings in Malaysia (circa 1753).

●  He joined Anak-Anak Alam group in 1974.

●  The majority of the Anak-Anak Alam Group never sold their artwork because the art market was not active as it is now.

●  Some say some figures look like Amoeba.

●  Some series are very organic i.e. nature

●  Right time, right space.

●  God or Universe is so great, every human has a unique Thumbprint, meaning you need to create the Uniqueness that God has planted in you, find the Seed in your self, let the Seed germinate and grow into a Tree, and finally it’ll start to bear Fruits, and that Fruits is not for your taking, it is for others to enjoy.” ~ Jootha

●  “My Art pieces are not for me, but for others to enjoy!” ~ Jootha.

●  “The mighty Oak was once a Nut who stood his ground.”

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