“I think if the Tunku had kept us together, what we did in Singapore, had Malaysia accepted a MULTIRACIAL base for their society, much of what we’ve achieved in Singapore would be achieved in Malaysia,” Lee Kuan Yew narrated to Seth, adding that although “not as much (as Singapore) because it’s (Malaysia) a much broader base.”
Hailed by former US President Barack Obama as “one of the great strategists of Asian affairs,” Lee Kuan Yew, the founding father of modern Singapore, who governed the Southeast Asian country for three decades, was “an agnostic,” he told in an interview with Seth Mydans of New York Times and IHT back in September 2010.
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Singapore broke away from Malaysia and gained independence in the year 1965.
About half a century ago, Singapore was an island without any natural resources to call its own. Since then, it has pulled off an absolutely dramatic transformation.
“We would have improved inter-racial relations and an improved holistic situation.
“Now we have a very polarised Malaysia,” he said.
“Malays, Chinese and Indians in separate schools, living separate lives and not really getting on with one another. You read them. That’s bad for us as close neighbours.”
Lee said that the greatest satisfaction he had was (that) “my colleagues and I, (who) were of that generation who were turfed out of Malaysia (and) suffered two years under a racial policy, decided that we will go the other way.”
“We will not as a majority squeeze the minority… We made quite sure whatever your race, language or religion, you are an equal citizen and we’ll drum that into the people.”
“And I think our Chinese understand and today we have an integrated society. Our Malays are English-educated, they’re no longer like the Malays in Malaysia and you can see there are some still wearing headscarves but very modern looking,” Lee said.
But when Seth points out that it doesn’t sound like a regret to him
Lee clarifies by saying that “the regret is (that) there’s such a narrow base to build this enormous edifice, so I’ve got to tell the next generation, please do not take for granted what’s been built.”
He makes the point that “people should not come to believe that what’s built is permanent“, because then “it will come tumbling down and you will never get a second chance.”
“The easiest way to get majority vote is a vote for me, we’re Chinese, they’re Indians, they’re Malays. Our society will be ripped apart,” he said, adding that “If you do not have a cohesive society, you cannot make progress.”
When Seth probes him by asking if that’s a concern that the younger generation doesn’t realise as much as it should, Lee responds by saying that he believes “they have come to believe that this is a natural state of affairs, and they can take liberties with it. They think you can put it on auto-pilot. I know that is never so.
“We’ve crafted a set of very intricate rules, no housing blocks shall have more than a percentage of so many Chinese, so many per cent Malays, Indians.
“All are thoroughly mixed. Your neighbours are Indians, Malays. You go to the same shopping malls, you go to the same schools, the same playing fields, you go up and down the same lifts. We cannot allow segregation.”
When Seth points out there are people who think that Singapore may lighten up a little after his demise, that the rules will become a little looser and that might be something that’s a concern to him.
Lee responded by saying that, “No, you can go looser where it’s not (about) race, language and religion because those are deeply gut issues and it will surface the moment you start playing on them. It’s inevitable, but on other areas, policies, right or wrong, a disparity of opportunities, rich and poor, will go ahead.
But don’t play the race, language, religion (card). We’ve got here, we’ve become cohesive, keep it that way.”
Explaining why they didn’t keep Chinese as a majority language and adopted English as their working language, Lee said that Chinese “will split the population.”
“(English) is equal for everybody, and it’s given us the progress because we’re connected to the world,” he said, adding that “if you want to keep your Malay, or your Chinese, or your Tamil, Urdu or whatever, do that as a second language, not equal to your first language. It’s up to you, how high a standard you want to achieve.”
Lee, whose tenure in office from 1959 to 1990 made him the world’s longest-serving Prime Minister in history, died on 23 Mar 2015
“I’m not saying that everything I did was right, but everything I did was for an honourable purpose. I had to do some nasty things, locking fellows up without trial.”
“For the greater good?” probes Seth, to which Lee responds, saying: “Well, yes, because otherwise they are running around and causing havoc playing on Chinese language and culture, and accusing me of destroying Chinese education.”
Explaining further, Lee said that those who question him today weren’t around when the Communists were running the show.
“Communists do not believe in the democratic process. They don’t believe in one man, one vote. They believe in ONE BULLET, ONE VOTE.
They had killer squads. But they at the same time had a united front exploiting the democratic game. It gave them cover.
“But my job was to make sure that they did not succeed. Sometimes you just got to lock the leaders up. They are confusing the people,” he said.
“They harp on these things when they know they are not true. They know that if you actually do in Chinese language and culture, the Chinese will riot and the society must break up,” he told the New York Times’ correspondent.
When asked if leadership is a constant battle, Lee had this to say:
“In a multiracial situation like this, it is.
“Malaysia took the different line; Malaysians saw it as a Malay country, all others are lodgers, ‘orang tumpangan’, and they the Bumiputras, sons of the soil, run the show.
“So the Sultans, the Chief Justice and judges, generals, police commissioner, the whole hierarchy is Malay. All the big contracts for Malays. Malay is the language of the schools although it does not get them into modern knowledge.
“So the Chinese build and find their own independent schools to teach Chinese, the Tamils create their own Tamil schools, which do not get them jobs.
“It’s the most unhappy situation.”
By Seth Mydans of New York Times and IHT in September 2010.
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